John Varvatos Star USA Laceless Venetian Men’s Loafer Black 8.5M MSRP $198 Very nice casual laceless boat shoes: a moc-style toe, soft suede leather upper, overlaid style with contrast leather dual stitched-tops, durable elastic loop-strap across vamps for snugness, laceless with 4 eye-less decoration, padded leather insteps with tonal eyelets leather lace, stacked leather heel for last and guard, contoured last and shock absorbing foot-bed, genuine hand-sewn construction for perfect fit and ultimate comfort and support, full leather insole with soft removable padded memory foam cushioned foot-bed, flexible mid-sole shock absorbent that relieves impact on the knees, hips and lower back, as well perspiration escape keeping healthy foot environment, lightweight and durable rubber outsole, tiny-waves with slip-resistant traction pattern rubber, marked a signature logo “John Varvatos Star USA” at the insole and ‘amazonas’ at the outsole -- Slip on easily, high quality, durable material design, very nice, casual and ultimate comfort and support Size 8 M Approximate measurements in inches: o 10 7/8 foot-bed length that would be fit for foot length of 10 3/16 or shoes size 8.5 (wear socks, then lay your foot on a blank paper, keep a pencil straight while trace your toes, heel and the sides, then measure your foot length) o 10.25 around vamp -- measured at 5.5” from back heel moderate opening vamp (Use your marks on the above traces, measure the side to side width at 5.5” from back heel, then add the around vamp from one side to the other) o Heel height: (excluded foot-bed thickness at heel area) o Outsole Length: 11.25 o The foot-bed width at 5.5” from back heel: 3 o Maximum foot-bed width at ball of foot: 3 o According to the above measurements, the shoes are about right 8.5M (Medium-width, foot-length 10 inches, 9/16 inch length moving comfort) o The actual size of your feet are important to the fits, thus making sure your sizes and adding your comfortable moving space that’s up to your style, use the above measurements to get your best fit style Style: F1543P1B 414 Sub Style: boat loafers Color: Black (See picture for details) Material: Leather Upper and lining, rubber outsole Made in Brazil UPC: 10JVARVATOS85MDBLK99AA Pre-owned Without Box -- See picture for detailed conditions NOTE: The marks are at bottom outsole to prevent returning to the store (see picture for details). The sale is as the posted pictures and actual measurements of the shoes. It’s a final sale, no returns or exchanges. If you’d have known this brand, then use the size in printed label. Otherwise, you’d use the actual measurements of these shoes to get your best fits. Or the following suggestions: the shoes are comfortable fit for 8.5M (Medium-width, foot-length 10 3/16 inches, 11/16 inch length moving comforts). FOOT-LENGTH SHOE SIZES at ClothingbydanStore