For Sale : USA Made preowned Vintage PD Tuff Apache brown oiled leather leather western paddock/jodhpur lace up Boots with kilties in Womens size 8.5. Measure your feet/boots with a like toe then refer to the measurements below. Removable kilties Roper toes Block Heels with Biltrite Caps Brass Hardware 120 + ridged rubber Outsoles Spur ledge Soft suede interiors Apache brown Leather Reinforced stitching rawhide Laces PD TUFF USA logo embossed into the outside heels Condition: Less than Average Vintage wear for age/use: surface top of the foot creases, small dings, rubs, scuffs Dark areas. Minor wear on the soles, mostly on the heel backs. light writing on bottom soles. Beautiful little vintage boots. Measurement Outside Length heel to toe: 10.75" Width (across ball of foot): 3.75" Heel Height: 7/8" Shaft height: 7.5". FYI You must measure your feet if you intend to buy footwear online that fits you. You can also measure a pair of your own boots but you have to match the toes/heels of the ones you intend to purchase. I cannot do this for You and I do not accept returns on footwear. Vintage boots were not ever sized like today's boots and they are all over the planet in measurements.